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(If you think this is satire, rather than legitimate speculation based on the personalities involved, then you’ve had your head in the sand for the last months.)

In the second undisclosed Putin conversation did Trump offer to lift sanctions against Russia (for invading Crimea) in exchange for a Sberbank Loan to build a Trump Tower Moscow and/or for leaving Melania alone? Trump fears Melania may run off with Putin? She was, after all, seated with Putin and laughing.

Trump Lawyer Kasowitz Defends Russian Gov Sberbank; Sberbank Was To Fund Trump Tower Moscow – Is Russiagate All About Another Trump Phallic Symbol?

What did Trump and Putin whisper into each other’s ear for almost one hour at the Couples Only G20 Dinner? We can only speculate as there were apparently no American witnesses; no US translator; no official US record. Putin speaks and understands at least some English anyway. And, of course, for anyone who can master German grammar like Putin had to have done as a KGB agent in Germany, English is a no-brainer. Perhaps they asked Putin’s translator if stumped for words? This should make clear why translators must sign non-disclosure agreements and translators could easily know too much.

Trump Fears Melania May Run Off With Putin? Offers to Lift Sanctions? Only they know? Or does Germany, Europol and the FBI know due to a bug?

Melania Trump pictured laughing with Russian President Vladimir Putin at G20 dinner” First lady speaks several languages including German” by Lucy Pasha-Robinson, Saturday 8 July 2017 13:21 BST http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/melania-trump-first-lady-laughing-russian-president-vladimir-putin-g20-dinner-donald-trump-hamburg-a7830471.html According to the article, couples were separated rather than being seated together.

Trump, Putin had previously undisclosed visit at G20 dinner
Posted:Tue, 18 Jul 2017 21:19:56 -0400 WASHINGTON (Reuters) – U.S. President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin had a previously undisclosed conversation during a dinner for G20 leaders at a summit earlier this month in Germany, a White House official said on Tuesday
“. http://feeds.reuters.com/~r/Reuters/PoliticsNews/~3/g78V9lP37A0/us-usa-trump-russia-idUSKBN1A31VZ

Whose dummkopf idea was it to separate couples at the G20 supper? This carries a general risk of being a diplomatic disaster. But, above all, whose idea was it to seat Melania Trump next to Vladimir Putin? Germany? Is Germany trying to cause a US-Russian war? Did they hopefully bug the whole thing for Europol and the FBI? Maybe not such a dumb idea after all? Maybe a genius idea?

Most people can imagine what happens next. Donald Trump sees Melania laughing with Putin and rushes over to intervene. One can but wonder if the same thing which made Chancellor Merkel roll her eyes earlier in the G20 made Melania Trump laugh.

Because there was no US translator-witness, we don’t know for sure what was said. But, other than create a general distraction what could Trump do when he sees Melania giggling with Putin?

Both men have long-standing, known, indirect mafia connections, but the jury appears still out over whether they have direct mafia connections, or simply turn their heads and refuse to see. Both have nuclear weapons. So, Trump can’t threaten Putin.

FBI Doc on Russian Mafia Mogilevich Org Tied to Tochtachunov, Genovese – All Tied to Trump, At Least Indirectly (Mogilevich Org Planned to Dump Waste at Chernobyl Too)

Furthermore, Trump apparently needs Russian government Sberbank to build a Trump Tower in Moscow.

What does Trump have that Putin doesn’t besides Melania? The ability to lift more sanctions – he already lifted some: On February 2nd, the Trump administration lifted sanctions which blocked the Russian FSB from getting the latest Information Technology (IT) products/ updates. Access to updates, etc., due to the lifting of sanctions facilitates Russian hacking of the US and Europe. The Trump administration seems to be effectively inviting Russia’s security services (FSB) to do more hacking. https://miningawareness.wordpress.com/2017/07/07/3-trump-policies-which-facilitate-future-tampering-with-us-elections-by-russia/

Further lifting of sanctions would make Exxon and probably Tillerson happy – they can drill the Arctic with Rosneft. It would make VP Pence’s brother who is VP at Cummins happy.

There need to be more sanctions against Russia over Crimea not fewer, lest Russia roll over other parts of the former Soviet Union-Russian Empire, including Alaska, which the US purchased from Russia. Russian meddling in US affairs appears to violate this treaty, too. [Update: And, speak of the devil, they have now formally declared Little Russia in the Ukraine: “Vladimir Putin’s ambition to restore the Russian Empire took another step forward today as Russian-backed separatists in Ukraine’s Donetsk region proclaimed an independent state and adopted the tsarist-era name of ‘Little Russia.’ The ultimate responsibility for this latest flagrant violation of Ukraine’s sovereignty lies squarely with Vladimir Putin’s Russia, upon whose leadership, financing, troops, and weapons the separatists are entirely dependent“. https://www.mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/press-releases?ID=8FF2E1F9-08FD-4F2D-824A-312A54F17676 ]


Alaska Purchase check: https://www.loc.gov/rr/program/bib/ourdocs/Alaska.html

Update: Perhaps this was part of their discussions? “Report: Trump Ends CIA Program to Arm, Train Syrian Rebelshttps://www.voanews.com/a/report-says-trump-ends-cia-syrian-rebels-program/3951659.html Neither the US nor Russia should be in Syria.

Unfortunately, Russiagate is apparently not just about jealousy fits and building Trump Towers. And, anyway, Helen of Troy caused a very long war.

Johann Georg Trautmann (1713–1769) Burning of Troy

Trump’s connections are ugly and this isn’t all and probably scratching the surface:

Trump Tower Tenant Living Below Trump Sent to Jail for Racketeering Conspiracy with Russian-American Organized Crime

FBI Doc on Russian Mafia Mogilevich Org Tied to Tochtachunov, Genovese – All Tied to Trump, At Least Indirectly (Mogilevich Org Planned to Dump Waste at Chernobyl Too)

Is There A Relationship Between Trump SoHo and Prevezon SoHo Holdings?

Trump Lawyer Kasowitz Defends Russian Gov Sberbank; Sberbank Was To Fund Trump Tower Moscow – Is Russiagate All About Another Trump Phallic Symbol?

VP Pence’s Connections to Cummins, Which Literally Moves Russia, Including Military; Partners With KAMAZ Owned By Russian Gov Owned-Sanctioned Entities Rostec & Sberbank

The Donald Trump Story You’ve Not Been Hearing Enough About-Yet

Trump’s “Greatest Mentor” Roy Cohn was Attorney for NYC Mob Families and Red-Baiting Aide to Joe McCarthy: Wayne Barrett (RIP January 19, 2017) Interview

Trump Associates Who Reportedly Facilitated Back-Channel Ukraine “Peace Plan” Include Trump Lawyer Cohen plus Russian-American Sater, Who Pleaded Guilty in a Mafia-Connected Racketeering Case

Donald Trump’s Disastrous Relationship with the Questionable Kazakh Business World (Bayrock-Arif, Sater, Sapir, Russia, Trump Soho, Trump Fort Lauderdale, etc.)

Speaking on NPR’s All Things Considered, Bremmer said the discussion lasted about an hour and was unsettling to many of the other leaders present.” “White House: Trump, Putin Held Second ‘Brief Conversation’ At G-20” July 18, 20177:19 PM ET http://www.npr.org/2017/07/18/537981682/white-house-trump-putin-held-second-brief-conversation-at-g-20

The Washington Post: “Trump had undisclosed hour-long meeting with Putin at G-20 Summit Trump had undisclosed hour-long meeting with Putin at G-20 Summit The second meeting, unreported at the time, took place at a dinner for G20 leaders, a senior administration official said. Halfway through the meal, President Trump left his seat to occupy an empty chair next to Russian President Vladimir Putin. Trump was alone, and Putin was attended only by his official interpreter.” Read the article here: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-had-undisclosed-hour-long-meeting-with-putin-at-g20-summit/2017/07/18/39c18dd4-6bd0-11e7-96ab-5f38140b38cc_story.html

There is this piece, supposedly satire, about Melania, but who knows? Her father was a member of the Communist Party: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lev-raphael/melania-trump-secret-agen_b_11366666.html

Congressman Schiff on MSNBC with Chris Matthews discussing this and Ivanka Trump husband Kushner’s security clearance: http://youtu.be/4ju-pN9O9Ps

Link to Excerpt from interview: “Ian Bremmer on Trump-Putin Meeting: Charlie Rose, 4:23 AM CDT , July 18, 2017 https://www.bloomberg.com/news/videos/2017-07-18/bremmer-on-trump-putin-meeting-charlie-rose-video

NB: These conclusions were arrived at over 12 hours ago, after running across the article about Melania laughing with Putin. However, disruptions made this late.

Update Notes, March 2022: It appears clear that Trump-Russia collusion was a hoax – maybe even perpetuated by Russia itself. Early in his administration, Trump sent liquified natural gas (LNG) to Poland to make it less dependent upon Russia. The above was based on what we believed to have been known at the time. Meanwhile, even after Putin invaded Crimea, the Biden administration is waiting one month before sanctioning Sberbank. Previously, Biden Sec of State Blinken waived Nord Stream 2 sanctions, which allowed it to be finished. Many of our posts need amending regarding Trump, but we simply lack the time.