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“Episode 1,137 – Deep Dive into COVID
(w/ Dr. Robert Malone, Dr. Peter Navarro)”
July 31, 2021 in WarRoom Show: https://warroom.org/2021/07/31/episode-1137-deep-dive-into-covid/
Please listen to the above video. Dr. Navarro explains that they knew from the beginning that the vaccines were experimental and, hence, carry risks. Dr. Malone was behind the technology that has led to the mRNA vaccines. He warns of some of the risks, including impacts to the heart.
While Malone explains that mass vaccination during the pandemic would drive the expansion of new variants, he doesn’t adequately explain it. It’s not that new variants of Covid-19 virus come into existence due to vaccination. It’s that those mutated variants resistant to the vaccine are favored. The resistant viruses are still able to infect the vaccinated human host and, thus, spread more prolifically through viral shedding. He calls this basic virology, but it’s basic biology (which should have been learned in high school). We add more details further down in this blog post. The favored variants could also be more contagious because of increased difficulty in finding and infecting a host.
As we have previously explained, in passing, even traditional vaccines only rarely provide sterilizing immunity. They aren’t expected to do so. Rather, they are supposed to increase the ability of the body to fight off-destroy the disease, once a person is infected. If this is done successfully, then the vaccinated person can still be a silent carrier like Typhoid Mary. Those with symptoms generally have higher viral loads, but are less likely to be in the public. While this is discussed by Malone-Navarro for the new vaccines, it’s actually true for most, or all, vaccines.
Navarro and Malone suggest that vaccination be targeted, especially during the ongoing pandemic. They suggest that the focus should be vaccinating at risk populations. However, protecting at risk populations by other means appears likely safer (e.g. air filtration, distancing, hygiene, high quality masks, testing-quarantine ) and more ethical. If a population is at risk, then they may be at greater risk for the side-effects, as well. However, the immune over-reaction that they mention could, hypothetically, be less of a problem for older people who, hypothetically-as a group, have weaker immune systems.
Importantly, they point out the need to return to doctors addressing people, individually, on a case by case basis, informed by lab work, rather than a one size fits all approach.
At risk populations pose an ethical dilemma, which isn’t easily resolved . At risk populations need to make their own informed decisions-choices, if they are able. However, there is not enough information for anyone to make a truly informed decision. So, each has to pray that they make the right decision for themselves and live (or die) with the consequences. If you are responsible for someone else, may God help you. Because if you make the wrong choice, you become responsible for the outcome. Not making a decision is also making a decision.
Dr. Alton Ochsner, MD, injected his grandchildren with a defective batch of polio vaccine from Cutter Laboratories “a tragic event which killed his grandson and gave his granddaughter polio.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alton_Ochsner
Furthermore, Malone doesn’t address how much of the risk is from the nature of an RNA virus and the mRNA vaccines for RNA viruses. [Update note: This topic difficult, and governments and Pharma companies have failed to adequately explain and expect blind obedience, instead.]
We worry, especially, about the hypothetical potential of CJD-prion disease showing up in around 16 months, or so, from these vaccines.
One thing that Dr. Malone mentions is reports that women’s menstrual cycles are being disrupted by the vaccine, included bleeding by post-menopausal women. He points out that this is normally associated with cancer, but they don’t know what it means. He says that there are reports of vaccinated women impacting the menstrual cycles of the unvaccinated and he wonders if it is related to shedding of the spike proteins. However, it is well-known that women who work or live in groups have their menstrual cycles influenced by the group.
Remember that your body isn’t totally helpless. Humans have basic immunity, which includes skin, mucus membranes and even the hair in the nose. Your body also has the ability to recognize foreign invaders, if they have by-passed these barriers. You may even have some pre-existing immunity to coronaviruses as a group.
According to Dr. Malone, the emergence of new variants, which are resistant to a vaccine, is foundational to virology. However, he doesn’t do a good job of explaining the mechanism, which is actually considered foundational to all of biology. This is something that everyone should have learned in high school biology. However, some may have failed to learn either because they couldn’t understand immigrant teachers, or because of the imposition of religious interpretation upon schools.
It’s not that new variants of Covid-19 virus are created due to the vaccine. It’s that those mutated variants resistant to the vaccine are favored, i.e. “more fit” and, hence the frequently abused term, “survival of the fittest”. The resistant viruses are able to infect the (human or non-human) host and spread more prolifically through viral shedding. It does appear possible that the mRNA vaccine itself might be able to actually mutate into new variants, though the vaccine developers deny this possibility. The vaccines themselves seem to be a sort of man-made RNA virus.
For those interested in how mass vaccination drives the spread of more virulent-resistant varieties, the short of it is in the excerpts, below.
It’s worth noting that a virus is not living, however, it’s a package of genetic material (DNA or RNA) which depends upon a host to reproduce. It is a parasite.
So, reproduction depends upon a living host. Because a virus is not living, it can’t really be killed. Rather, for enveloped viruses the envelope can be denatured-destroyed. For those without envelopes the genetic material can be denatured-destroyed. Also, some scientists now know how to genetically manipulate viruses to change their characteristics.
How does the body deal with viruses then? As this article explains, sometimes it’s actually by killing the infected cells. This and other means that the body uses to get rid of viruses (interferons, antibodies, activation of phagocytes) are explained here: https://www.immunology.org/public-information/bitesized-immunology/pathogens-and-disease/immune-responses-viruses
If you subscribe to a certain literalist interpretation of the Bible (or other religious texts), which opposes these concepts, that’s your right, but be prepared to live or die with the consequences of your decisions-beliefs, and don’t impose them on other people. If you are a Biblical literalist, then the vaccine shouldn’t be an issue, anyway. You should simply pray and have faith. If you are a Biblical literalist, you probably shouldn’t be going to the doctor, at all, even though the doctor might save your life after a heart attack, auto accident, severe allergic reaction, or from blood clots, etc.
Whereas for some people the secret to healthy longevity is staying away from doctors, for others not going to the doctor in an emergency (e.g. heart attack) has led to death.
Each person is unique and must be responsible for their own health decisions – right or wrong. People are supposed to have informed consent, however, and the public hasn’t been provided the minimum information to do so.
This post does not constitute either medical or religious advice. Each person must work out these things on their own. The United States was founded with separation of church and state, so that people could act according to their religious convictions or even lack of religious convictions and not have beliefs imposed upon them, as was the case in Europe at the time.
The following explains the biological mechanism whereby vaccination drives the creation of new, resistant, variants. Science is driven by hypotheses. There are very few theories, and even they are subject to change. What most people call theories or theoretical is actually hypotheses or hypothetical. Many things remain unknown and unexplained.
“Natural selection is the differential survival and reproduction of individuals due to differences in phenotype…. physical characteristics. Phenotype is determined by an organism’s genetic make-up (genotype) and the environment in which the organism lives. When different organisms in a population possess different versions of a gene for a certain trait, each of these versions is known as an allele…. Some traits are governed by only a single gene, but most traits are influenced by the interactions of many genes. A variation in one of the many genes that contributes to a trait may have only a small effect on the phenotype; together, these genes can produce a continuum of possible phenotypic values.”
Natural selection “is a key mechanism of evolution, the change in the heritable traits characteristic of a population over generations. Charles Darwin popularised the term “natural selection”, contrasting it with artificial selection, which in his view is intentional, whereas natural selection is not.
Variation exists within all populations of organisms. This occurs partly because random mutations arise in the genome of an individual organism, and their offspring can inherit such mutations. Throughout the lives of the individuals, their genomes interact with their environments to cause variations in traits… Because individuals with certain variants of the trait tend to survive and reproduce more than individuals with other less successful variants, the population evolves…. Natural selection acts on the phenotype, the characteristics of the organism which actually interact with the environment, but the genetic (heritable) basis of any phenotype that gives that phenotype a reproductive advantage may become more common in a population…. Natural selection is a cornerstone of modern biology…. The concept of natural selection originally developed in the absence of a valid theory of heredity; at the time of Darwin’s writing, science had yet to develop modern theories of genetics… The addition of molecular genetics has led to evolutionary developmental biology, which explains evolution at the molecular level. While genotypes can slowly change by random genetic drift, natural selection remains the primary explanation for adaptive evolution….” Excerpts from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_selection
Disclaimer: This post does not constitute medical advice. We hope it gives tools for non-experts to better understand/ask the right questions to do further research. You are responsible for your own health. Only you can and should be responsible for your own health.
Philippians 2:12: “Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling”.
“The Cutter Incident: How America’s First Polio Vaccine Led to a Growing Vaccine Crisis Reviewed by Michael Fitzpatrick J R Soc Med. 2006 Mar; 99(3): 156. PMCID: PMC1383764 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?term=Fitzpatrick%20M%5BAuthor%5D
“When polio vaccine backfired / Tainted batches killed 10 and paralyzed 164”
Sabin Russell, Chronicle Medical Writer April 25, 2005 Updated: Jan. 23, 2012 12:10 p.m https://www.sfgate.com/health/article/When-polio-vaccine-backfired-Tainted-batches-2677525.php
Turnbull ML, Wise HM, Nicol MQ, Smith N, Dunfee RL, Beard PM, Jagger BW, Ligertwood Y, Hardisty GR, Xiao H, Benton DJ, Coburn AM, Paulo JA, Gygi SP, McCauley JW, Taubenberger JK, Lycett SJ, Weekes MP, Dutia BM, Digard P. “Role of the B Allele of Influenza A Virus Segment 8 in Setting Mammalian Host Range and Pathogenicity”. J Virol. 2016 Sep 29;90(20):9263-84. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27489273/
We didn’t look at this in detail, yet. However, when I was required to take an unnecessary measles booster shot, I took an antibody test instead, and proved that I was still immune. “Important: Get Tested For COVID Antibodies for $10! This Is A Quantitative Test To Show Immunity, And If Immune, Why Take The Jab? LabCorp!” https://www.nukepro.net/2021/08/important-get-tested-for-covid.html
Update note: While Malone alleges that the RNA vaccines are safer, we continue to suspect the opposite. The adenoviruses are DNA viruses, so may be safer. This doesn’t meant that they are safe, however. Here’s one explanation of the mechanism:
https://www.mayoclinic.org/johnson-johnson-adenovirus-vaccine-explained/vid-20510091
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