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“Italian doctor on how virus ‘exploded’, having coronavirus & how to fight it ”
Notice that she says that they aren’t allowed to put those above 80 from the nursing home next door into intensive care.
It’s apparently due to implementation of this rule:
“Italians over 80 ‘will be left to die’ as country overwhelmed by coronavirus: Hardest-hit region drafts new proposals saying who will live and who will die” By Erica Di Blasi, TURIN, 14 March 2020, 4:38pm, The Telegraph: http://archive.is/z2u1I
A healthy 80 year old could outlive a 60 year old. People do live healthy, worthwhile, and often productive lives well past 80 and some into their 100s. To arbitrarily decide that if you are 80 they won’t try to save you, regardless of your health, is pure evil.
Italy’s death rate from Coronavirus may be higher than China because they are refusing to give intensive care to anyone over 80 years old – apparently regardless of health – and even younger people with too many other illnesses. There is a points scale and apparently heart attack counts against you, as does diabetes, etc.
The US should refuse intensive care to those who go on spring break during this outbreak and get into accidents and take hospital beds from those who need them. They are truly worse than useless.
“In One Italian Village, Nearly 300 Residents Are Over 100 Years Old : NPR” https://www.npr.org/2016/03/30/472442367/in-one-italian-village-nearly-300-residents-are-over-100-years-old
About points scales-comorbidity. The Charlson Index is mentioned in the article.
Most likely due to austerity cuts to the medical system, but it is still possible that the virus in Italy is more virulent: “We fear that we have almost lost control’: Doctors and nurses account for more than 8% of Italy’s coronavirus cases: Researchers find the infection rate among medical staff in Italy is twice that found in China, where the virus originated” By Erica Di Blasi IN TURIN, 20 March 2020 • 7:22pm, The Telegraph: http://archive.is/xsDKL
Socialized medicine and austerity cuts is a deadly combination:
“Death by a million cuts: what future for the right to health in Italy?” August 22, 2018 By Rossella De Falco https://cesr.org/death-million-cuts-what-future-right-health-italy
“The conservatives who would sacrifice the elderly to save the economy” By Noah Millman, The Week, March 17, 2020 https://news.yahoo.com/conservatives-sacrifice-elderly-save-economy-094502493.html
Refusing to treat people over 80 years old is moving toward Nazism, where only the lives of those able to work had value.