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The majority of “hispanics” in the United States are “white”, but still are classified as a “minority”.

President Obama and Pope Francis (above); President Obama, Nancy Pelosi, VP Biden, Congressman Clyburn (below).

Why is an Italian Argentinian, like the Pope, “presumed to be socially and economically disadvantaged“, in the United States because they are “Hispanic” and now called “brown people” or “people of color“, whereas an Italian-American like Nancy Pelosi, an Italian-Canadian, and an immigrant from Italy are all considered “white” and non-hispanic? https://www.sba.gov/starting-business/how-start-business/business-types/minority-owned-businesses Over half of Argentinians are of Italian ancestry. These include Pope Francis. While Pelosi is the name of her Italian husband, she is Italian, too.

This isn’t just an exercise in semantics. This, and other absurdities, in the so-called “minority” group “hispanic”, have real implications in the lives and futures of real people. While giving special privileges to so-called “minorities” who immigrated willingly, or whose ancestors immigrated willingly, to the United States, is unfair, the classification of “hispanic” is absurd. The indigenous peoples of Latin America, such as the Mayan, are not “hispanic”. And, even the US Census recognizes them as “American Indian”.

According to the US Census over half of “Hispanics” are “white” and “Within the White alone population, the vast majority of the growth was propelled by the Hispanic population.” https://www.census.gov/prod/cen2010/briefs/c2010br-02.pdf

The “hispanic” classification, as currently defined, means that if someone’s ancestors migrated from Germany, Ireland, Italy, Spain, the Middle East, etc, to Latin America, before later migrating to the United States, then they are a hispanic “minority” and get special rights and privileges. In stark contrast, if you are German-American, Irish-American, Italian-American, or Arab American, you are supposedly the beneficiary of “white privilege”.

The majority of “white” people look “brown” and “of color” if they spend a lot of time in the sun and you cannot assume that just because someone is “brown” with dark hair and eyes that they are not European. The real demographic and cultural shift in the United States appears to be the massive influx of Asians over the last half a century, especially the mostly upper caste immigrants from India. Asians have also immigrated from Latin America. While the Dalits (untouchables) get affirmative action in India, the upper castes from India come to the United States to get it.

It is patently unfair, and absurd, to classify the descendants of white Europeans who immigrated to Latin America as “brown” “minorities” when they move to the USA, while the descendants of those who immigrated directly to the United States, and helped build the country, are classified as “privileged” “white”. It is beyond unfathomable that Spaniards and Portuguese who migrate directly to the United States are classified as a minority and other Europeans are not. White Spaniards are now classified as a “brown” “minority” and often “brown” North Africans are “white”. Even Mitt Romney’s Mexican born father would be “hispanic” these days, and some have argued that he could be the first “hispanic” president.

On a related topic: https://miningawareness.wordpress.com/2019/04/23/examining-the-exploitive-role-of-ethnic-germans-in-guatemala-to-better-contextualize-the-us-border-crisis/

As an example, descendants of Nazis who hid out in Latin America get special “hispanic” “minority” status, giving them rights and privileges, which those whose ancestors were German-American religious refugees and fought the Nazis in WWII, do not get. Italian Americans whose ancestors fought the fascists in WWII are also supposed to step aside and give special rights to the descendants of fascists who hid out in Latin America. If your ancestors are Spanish, who came directly from Spain, you are a “hispanic” “minority”, whereas if you are Italian-American, your ancestors are not. If you are Basque from Spain you can claim “hispanic” status, whereas if you are Basque from France you cannot. The absurdities of this classification are almost endless

The media tend to show us crying immigrant children who could be indigenous peoples. However, indigenous Latin Americans are classified as American Indians in the United States. This, once again, shows the absurdity of this designation. According to the US Census, if you are Mayan or Incan or other indigenous Latin American, then you are classified as “American Indian”. This, and the fact that many (or most) indigenous Latin Americans don’t speak Spanish, nor identify as “hispanic”, further underlines the absurdity of “Hispanic” as a special protected “minority”. There are Asian immigrants to Latin America, however, who may appear indigenous.

A Minority Business Enterprise (MBE) is an American term which is defined as a business which is at least 51% owned, operated and controlled on a daily basis by one or more (in combination) American citizens of the following ethnic minorityand/or gender (e.g. woman-owned) and/or military veteran classifications:
1. African American
2. Asian American (includes West Asian Americans (India, etc.) and East Asian Americans (Japan, Korea, etc.))
3. Hispanic American – Persons with origins from Latin America, South America, Portugal and Spain.(SBA.gov)
4. Native American including Aleuts
5. Service-Disabled Veteran Owned aka SDVBE, aka DVBE* which became a federally certified classification in 1999, subsequent to the passage legislation by the United States Congress through the enactment of The Veterans Entrepreneurship and Small Business Act of 1999 (The Act); legislation that was further expanded by Congress in 2001.**
According to the U.S. Small Business Administration, minorities own more than 4.1 million firms, and account for nearly $700 billion in revenues.
MBE’s can be self-identified but are typically certified by a city, state or federal agency. DiversityBusiness.com is the primary organization for connecting businesses with Fortune 1000, Government Agencies and Educational organizations.


Some minority groups are presumed to be socially and economically disadvantaged and can qualify for the 8(a) program. These groups include: African Americans, Hispanic Americans, Native Americans, Asian Pacific Americans and Subcontinent Asian Americans. Individuals who are not members of one or more of these groups can be considered for the 8(a) program, but they must provide substantial evidence and documentation that demonstrates that they have been subjected to bias or discrimination and are economically disadvantaged. Firms owned by Alaska Native Corporations, Indian Tribes, Native Hawaiian Organizations and Community Development Corporations can also apply to the program.

Dr. King actually talked about the problem of new immigrants being favored over the descendants of slaves, historically, starting at ca 22 min http://youtu.be/RMLyhshxQc8

From the US Census:
The U.S. Census Bureau must adhere to the 1997 Office of Management and Budget (OMB) standards on race and ethnicity which guide the Census Bureau in classifying written responses to the race question:
White – A person having origins in any of the original peoples of Europe, the Middle East, or North Africa.
Black or African American – A person having origins in any of the Black racial groups of Africa.
American Indian or Alaska Native – A person having origins in any of the original peoples of North and South America (including Central America) and who maintains tribal affiliation or community attachment.
Asian – A person having origins in any of the original peoples of the Far East, Southeast Asia, or the Indian subcontinent including, for example, Cambodia, China, India, Japan, Korea, Malaysia, Pakistan, the Philippine Islands, Thailand, and Vietnam.
Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander – A person having origins in any of the original peoples of Hawaii, Guam, Samoa, or other Pacific Islands.

The 1997 OMB standards permit the reporting of more than one race. An individual’s response to the race question is based upon self-identification.

An individual’s response to the race question is based upon self-identification. The Census Bureau does not tell individuals which boxes to mark or what heritage to write in. For the first time in Census 2000, individuals were presented with the option to self-identify with more than one race and this continued with the 2010 Census.

People who identify with more than one race may choose to provide multiple races in response to the race question. For example, if a respondent identifies as “Asian” and “White,” they may respond to the question on race by checking the appropriate boxes that describe their racial identities and/or writing in these identities on the spaces provided.

What is Race?

The data on race were derived from answers to the question on race that was asked of individuals in the United States. The Census Bureau collects racial data in accordance with guidelines provided by the U.S. Office of Management and Budget (OMB), and these data are based on self-identification.

The racial categories included in the census questionnaire generally reflect a social definition of race recognized in this country and not an attempt to define race biologically, anthropologically, or genetically. In addition, it is recognized that the categories of the race item include racial and national origin or sociocultural groups. People may choose to report more than one race to indicate their racial mixture, such as “American Indian” and “White.” People who identify their origin as Hispanic, Latino, or Spanish may be of any race.

OMB requires five minimum categories: White, Black or African American, American Indian or Alaska Native, Asian, and Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander.

Reasons for Collecting Information on Race

Information on race is required for many Federal programs and is critical in making policy decisions, particularly for civil rights. States use these data to meet legislative redistricting principles. Race data also are used to promote equal employment opportunities and to assess racial disparities in health and environmental risks.

Race and Ethnicity Research

The Census Bureau has a long history of conducting research to improve questions and data on race and ethnicity. Since the 1970s, the Census Bureau has conducted content tests to research and improve the design and function of different questions, including questions on race and ethnicity.”

Biden needs to correct his statement to poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as Asian kids, instead of: “poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kidshttps://archive.li/https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/09/politics/joe-biden-iowa-poor-kids-white-kids/index.html

Asian-Indian households have the highest median income at $100,000. https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/09/08/key-facts-about-asian-americans/

Median Value of Assets for US Households 2014
Net Worth
Asian alone: $ 156,500
White alone: $102,800
Hispanic origin (any race) $17,530
Black alone: $9,590
Net Worth (Excluding Equity in Own Home)
Asian alone $ 65,120
White alone $ 33,570
Hispanic origin (any race) $ 6,253
Black alone $ 3,339

Median income 2017 (half above and half below)
Asian males $48,842
Asian females $28,260
White males $41,578
White females $25,793
“Hispanic origin” males $30,691
“Hispanic origin” females $ 20,312
Black males $30,112
Black females $23,639

Italian Argentines (Italian: italo-argentini, Spanish: ítalo-argentinos) are Argentine-born citizens of Italian descent or Italian-born people who reside in Argentina. Italian immigration is the second largest ethnic origins of modern Argentinians. Together with Spanish immigration as well as the colonial population that settled previously to the major migratory movements into Argentina.[2] It is estimated up to 25 million Argentines have some degree of Italian descent (up to 62.5% of the total population).[1] Italians began arriving in Argentina in great numbers from 1857 to 1940, totaling 44.9% of the entire post-colonial immigrant population; more than from any other country (including Spain at 31.5%). In 1996, the population of Argentines with partial or full Italian descent numbered 15.8 million[3] when Argentina’s population was approximately 34.5 million, meaning they consisted of 45.5% of the population. Today, the country has 25 million Argentines with some degree of Italian descent in a total population of 40 million.[1] Italian settlement in Argentina, along with Spanish settlement, formed the backbone of today’s Argentine society. Argentine culture has significant connections to Italian culture in terms of language, customs and traditions.[4]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Argentines

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Exposes other angles on the problem: “There’s a big problem with how the census measures race” By Richard Alba February 6 2019 Washington Post: https://archive.li/U8Wvm

President Barack Obama talks with House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., as Vice President Joe Biden talks with Rep. James Clyburn, D-S.C., after a lunch with the Democratic House leadership in the Oval Office Private Dining Room, Feb. 17, 2011. (Official White House Photo by Pete Souza)
17 February 2011, 13:21 https://www.flickr.com/photos/whitehouse/5508408614/ The White House from Washington, DC

Obama White House-Pope https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/blog/2015/09/25/photos-pope-francis-visits-white-house