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The “analysts” have caught up to what this blog said over a week ago but they miss important points: The smaller the country the more one person’s vote counts. Thus, from the viewpoint of democracy smaller should be better. From the viewpoint of militarism larger is stronger. Russia-Putin may well be supporting independence movements to weaken Europe militarily. However, he needs to lead by example, as Russia has the largest land-area of any country. Instead of gobbling up other countries, or parts thereof, like Crimea, he needs to break-up Russia into small countries. How can tiny Liechtenstein be a country and Russia be a country? It makes no sense at all. https://miningawareness.wordpress.com/2017/09/21/arrest-of-catalan-government-officials-takeover-of-catalan-institutions-by-spanish-police-trying-to-halt-independence-referendum-francos-ghost-walks/

The Principality of Catalonia (1608). Map of Catalonia entitled Cataloniae principatus novissima et accurata descriptio printed in Antwerp in 1608 by Jan Baptist Vrients.

Similarly, Russia has been quick to point out US environmental problems, including problems with the nuclear industry and fracking, but generally fails to point out its own environmental problems, and nuclear problems. Why? Because the Russian State lives largely by oil and gas, and fracking drives down the price by glutting the market. And, not only does Russian State owned Rosatom export their nuclear reactors, but if everyone gets rid of nuclear weapons except Russia then Russia rules the world. The real issue, then, is the need to raise the alarm about environmental problems (and nuclear disarmament) in both Russia and the rest of the world, much as Greenpeace International does. Russia is often more in tune with the wants and needs of Americans and Europeans than their own politicians. However, Russia is not so in tune with the needs of its own people-environment. American and European politicians need to be more in tune with the wants and needs of their citizens and environment. If they were, then it would be very difficult for Russian propaganda to take root.

It is wrong to compare Crimea to Catalonia because Catalonia is historically Catalonia, whereas Crimea was not Russian and was conquered by Russia very late. https://miningawareness.wordpress.com/2014/09/03/why-crimea-ukraine-is-scottish-not-russian-move-over-vladimir-here-comes-the-scythians/ Furthermore, Catalonia is not seeking to leave Spain to join France, even though that would be more logical than Crimea joining Russia. The Catalon language is distinct and appears as its location – between Spanish and French. However, these examples suggest that it is much much closer to French: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalan_language. Nonetheless, Catalonia is not seeking to join France, but rather to be an independent nation state. And, why shouldn’t it join the EU? So, where’s the problem?

The question must also be raised of if a country kills off another people, brings in their own people to colonize, and/or forces another people to learn their language and culture, then whose land is it? Should it belong to those practicing conquest by genocide? This didn’t just happen in the Americas and it continues up to the present day. It appears to be a long-standing Russian strategy going back to Tsarist times or before. Population influx (aka immigration) can lead to genocide, as well as following genocide.

An interesting point:
It’s not that Russia necessarily wants the independence of Catalonia. What it’s principally seeking is to foment divisions to gradually undermine Europe’s democracy and institutions,” said Brett Schaffer, an analyst of the Alliance to Safeguard Democracy, a project supported by the German Marshall Fund, which monitors pro-Kremlin information networks.”, as cited in the VOA article below.

From VOA:
Analysts: Russia May Be Helping Catalonia Secessionists
September 29, 2017 5:53 PM, by Martin Arostegui
MADRID —  Catalonia’s secessionists, who are trying to organize an independence vote from Spain on Sunday, may be getting aid from Russia as part of the Kremlin’s ongoing strategy to destabilize the European Union, according to European Union analysts.

Spain’s central government has deployed thousands of police to contain expected disorder. They have threatened local officials who support the referendum with stiff fines and jail. Spain’s constitutional court has declared the pending vote illegal.

Despite what some see as a heavy-handed response by Madrid, the United States and most EU governments have backed Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy in his efforts to keep Spain united.

Russian state media have disseminated reports consistently favorable to Catalan independence in a move some analysts consider to be Moscow’s latest attempt to interfere in Western electoral processes.

The Kremlin has taken no public position on the referendum, calling it an “internal” matter for Spain.

Russia’s use of hacked information and dissemination of “fake news,” however, has been detected in recent Western electoral events, including the 2016 U.S. elections, Britain’s decision to leave the EU, or Brexit, and the just-concluded German elections.

“It’s not that Russia necessarily wants the independence of Catalonia. What it’s principally seeking is to foment divisions to gradually undermine Europe’s democracy and institutions,” said Brett Schaffer, an analyst of the Alliance to Safeguard Democracy, a project supported by the German Marshall Fund, which monitors pro-Kremlin information networks.

The Russian social media outlet Voice of Europe (@V_of_Europe) has run such headlines as “The EU refuses to intervene in Catalonia even as Spain violates basic human rights,” calling Catalonia’s referendum “a time bomb that threatens to destroy the EU.”

The internationally broadcast Russian Television, or RT, alleged on September 20 that a “state of siege” has been imposed on Catalonia and dubbed cruise liners chartered to house additional police agents being deployed to the Catalonia as “Ships of Repression.”

The Russian digital newspaper Vzglyad borrowed a page from the Western media’s treatment of uprisings against Soviet domination in Eastern Europe during the Cold War, with the September 20 headline “Spain brutally suppresses the Catalan Spring.”

Some editorials and Kremlin-sponsored academics took note of how the U.S. and EU neglected to recognize a Russian-sponsored Crimean referendum approving reunification with Russia and compared that with their current indifference toward the Catalan vote.

Catalan secessionist politician Enric Folch, who is international secretary of the Catalan Solidarity Party for Independence, has said on Russian media that a Catalan state would support Moscow in world forums and recognize the independence of territories of Abkhasia and South Ossetia, which separated from Georgia with Russian support.

Folch was a star participant at a Kremlin-sponsored conference of independence movements in Moscow last year.

David Alendete, an investigative reporter with the newspaper El Pais, said the conference was organized by a Russian lawyer who is defending Russian computer hackers arrested in Spain and is wanted by the FBI in connection with the hacking of Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential election campaign in the U.S.

“In Catalonia’s ‘red belt’ leftwing veterans distrust the separatists” https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/sep/30/red-belt-catalonia-labour-movement-referendum