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Hungary chose to send their old communist statues to an outdoor museum.

Memento Park, Taken on February 8, 2012 by mi) [1]

Hungary and some other countries chose to send their old communist statues to a museum: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memento_Park While the horror of US slavery lasted for over 200 years, the Confederacy was short-lived (1861-1865)- much much shorter lived than communist Hungary (1949–1989). Honor the American Revolution and the Civil Rights Movement and relegate the US Confederacy to history books and museums!

Donald J. Trump ‪@realDonaldTrump‬
‪Sad to see the history and culture of our great country being ripped apart with the removal of our beautiful statues and monuments. You…..‬9:07 AM · Aug 17, 2017

WTF? Trump’s ancestors weren’t even in the US during the Civil War. They were all in Europe. His mother was British born and his father was Made-in-Germany, though born in the US. After making money in the US, his grandfather returned to Germany to marry. His grandparents wanted to stay in Germany but were forced to return to the US. Due to the apparent draft-dodging status of his grandfather, Germany didn’t want them.[2]. Of course, it is Trump who wants to remove many of America’s National Monument protections, including the WWII Midway Battle site. But, he wants to protect Confederate monuments, it seems.

US Senator John McCain’s great-great grandfather(s) were slave-owners who fought in Mississippi regiments, and perhaps elsewhere, on the side of the Confederacy but John McCain said “I don’t believe their service, however distinguished, needs to be commemorated in a way that offends, that deeply hurts, people whose ancestors were once denied their freedom by my ancestors [3] Offensive to the descendants of slaves, as well as to the many whose ancestors fought for the Union! Not all southerners wanted to fight for the Confederacy. There was a draft and the desertion rate was high.[4] When sent out of state, at least one regiment turned tail and ran back home.

In 2015 Senator McCain also said: “I am very proud of the statements by South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley and Senators Lindsey Graham and Tim Scott supporting the removal of the Confederate battle flag from the state Capitol grounds. I have long believed that to be the right decision to move our nation forward in reconciliation.” [5]

Earlier this week Senator McCain tweeted:
John McCain ‪@SenJohnMcCain‬ Aug 15
‪There’s no moral equivalency between racists & Americans standing up to defy hate& bigotry. The President of the United States should say so
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While the horror of US slavery lasted for over two hundred years (ca 1641-1865) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_the_United_States, the Civil War and the Confederacy lasted only around 4 years. [6]

Hungary and some other countries chose to send their old communist statues to a museum: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memento_Park Sending them to a museum is an appropriate solution for the Confederate Statues, though it shouldn’t be called “Memento” and access should probably only be by guided tour. In the distant past, some of the statues actually were thrown into the Mississippi River, if we recall correctly.

( Update: In “Why the fuss over Confederate statues?” 17 August 2017, the BBC points out that: “Most Confederate monuments were not built until nearly a generation after the war ended in 1865,…. It was not until the turn of the century [they mean early 20th century] , as southern states began to enact so-called Jim Crow laws designed to deprive recently freed slaves of equal rights, that the monuments began to go up in public spaces.” http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40966800 The BBC article points to this poll which suggests that the majority of Americans think the statues should remain, and even 44% of African Americans do: http://maristpoll.marist.edu/wp-content/misc/usapolls/us170814_PBS/NPR_PBS%20NewsHour_Marist%20Poll_National%20Nature%20of%20the%20Sample%20and%20Tables_August%2017,%202017.pdf. See p. 9. General Robert E. Lee was against these statues, though it shouldn’t matter: https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Robert_E._Lee The late construction of the monuments, which occurred around the time of the second Ku Klux Klan [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ku_Klux_Klan#Second_KKK ] means that they are really about what Hobsbawn called an “invented tradition”. Several of the great-great grandchildren of Stonewall Jackson and Robert E. Lee are calling for the removal of the statues. Perhaps because they are closer to the Civil War history than most they better understand. In this context, it is noteworthy that Donald Trump’s father Fred was reported at a Klan rally, and was sued by the US government for refusing to rent to African Americans. This blogger had great-great grandfathers on both sides of the Civil War and thinks that the statues should have been sent to museums many decades ago.)

Like Trump, how many of the “blood and soil” fascists’ ancestors were still in Europe or Russia during the US Civil War? How many had ancestors who were still serfs? Regardless, they need to demand right of return to Europe or Russia. Unless they are of American Indian ancestry, there’s no “blood and soil” ancestry in the US for them. Why doesn’t Putin take them all? Russia has a low population density.

According to Salon Magazine’s “Trump, the alt-right and the Kremlin: White supremacists’ Russia links are no secret, Neo-Nazis, white supremacists and Donald Trump all have deep ties to Russia — and this ‘conspiracy’ isn’t hidden” by Heather Digby Parton, Thursday, August 17, 2017: “… Charlottesville ‘Unite the Right’ rally has deep connections to the global white nationalist movement, and the epicenter of that movement is in Moscow under the leadership of Vladimir Putin….” Matthew Heimbach, one of the organizers of the Charlottesville “Unite the Right” rally, has called “Russia our most powerful ally”, says Heather Digby Parton.  Heimbach is a member of the World National Conservative Movement, reportedly “a product of the Russian Imperial Movement (RIM)“. [7] Those who have listened to some on-line “conspiracy” radio shows suspect that they are indeed bank-rolled by Putin. The World Congress of Families has been bankrolled by Russian oligarchs and appears close to the Putin regime. [8]

Trump defends monuments to pro-slavery Confederacy, inflames tensions Posted:Thu, 17 Aug 2017 14:21:47 -0400 BRIDGEWATER, N.J/WASHINGTON (Reuters) – President Donald Trump on Thursday decried the removal of monuments to the pro-slavery Civil War Confederacy, echoing white nationalists and refusing to let go of a controversy that has inflamed U.S. racial tensions and threatens to further derail his policy agenda.http://feeds.reuters.com/~r/Reuters/PoliticsNews/~3/vEzu70TfRqs/us-usa-trump-idUSKCN1AX1HF

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[1] Memento Park, Taken on February 8, 2012 by mi) -https://www.flickr.com/photos/46695600@N03/albums/72157629807795309
https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.0/

[2] Trump’s ancestors were still in Germany and Britain during the US Civil War: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_family

[3] C-Span – https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4541629/john-mccain-confederate-flag
NY Times – http://www.nytimes.com/2000/04/20/us/after-campaigning-on-candor-mccain-admits-he-lacked-it-on-confederate-flag-issue.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_S._McCain_Sr
John McCain’s grandfather’s grandfather was a large planter who apparently fought in the Civil War – though large planters tended to be exempt, at least until there was massive protest. See Confederate States Army, below.

[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confederate_States_Army

[5] https://www.mccain.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2015/6/statement-by-senator-john-mccain-on-south-carolina-leaders-support-for-removing-the-confederate-flag-from-state-capitol-grounds

[6] The Confederate Battle Flag was in use less than 5 years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America
The Mississippi State flag was only official from 1894-1906 and from 2001 to present. The Mississippi Flag during the Civil War did not incorporate the Confederate Battle flag. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Mississippi. Robert E Lee served the US army for 32 years and the Confederate Army for 4 years. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_E._Lee

[7] “Trump, the alt-right and the Kremlin: White supremacists’ Russia links are no secret , Neo-Nazis, white supremacists and Donald Trump all have deep ties to Russia — and this ‘conspiracy’ isn’t hidden” by Heather Digby Parton, Thursday, August 17, 2017, Salon .com.

[8] See p. 5 of “EXPOSED: THE WORLD CONGRESS OF FAMILIES” by Human Rights Campaign Foundation: http://hrc-assets.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com//files/assets/resources/WorldCongressOfFamilies.pdf While the focus of this document, and of the foundation, is LGBTQ rights, the World Congress of Families is anti-woman, as well. In an overpopulated world, they want women to be “bare-foot and pregnant” breeders and not in universities.

[3] Jun 22 2015
STATEMENT BY SENATOR JOHN McCAIN ON SOUTH CAROLINA LEADERS’ SUPPORT FOR REMOVING THE CONFEDERATE FLAG FROM STATE CAPITOL GROUNDS
Washington, D.C. – U.S. Senator John McCain (R-AZ) today issued the following statement on South Carolina leaders’ statement on removing the Confederate battle flag from the state Capitol grounds:

“I am very proud of the statements by South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley and Senators Lindsey Graham and Tim Scott supporting the removal of the Confederate battle flag from the state Capitol grounds. I have long believed that to be the right decision to move our nation forward in reconciliation.

“My thoughts and prayers are with the victims and families of the terrible, hate-filled act of violence in Charleston last week, and to all the people of South Carolina at this most difficult time.”
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